tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post6212182882145264671..comments2024-03-18T15:28:13.866-04:00Comments on A Concord Pastor Comments: Priest says all are welcome in his churchConcord Pastorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18322127779647130869noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-46974085977967465102011-06-16T22:27:06.829-04:002011-06-16T22:27:06.829-04:00Hi Father Austin! Thank you for your post and for...Hi Father Austin! Thank you for your post and for being the wonderful pastor you are. I will never forget one of the first masses I attended at HF and you spoke of what the "parish family" was. I felt welcomed and knew that any person, single, married, gay, straight, divorced,etc. felt welcomed too. There are many churches who say they welcome everyone...you don't always feel it the way I did at HF. Thank you for your warmth and wisdom!ebeaunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-6397753830017906802011-06-16T21:56:18.256-04:002011-06-16T21:56:18.256-04:00It's not my intention to start trying to decid...It's not my intention to start trying to decide which comments are published and which aren't. So, if I find raised voices in my inbox, the combox will close.Concord Pastorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18322127779647130869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-3673669141103133692011-06-16T20:27:40.950-04:002011-06-16T20:27:40.950-04:00Fr. Fleming,
Since you moderate the comments, the...Fr. Fleming,<br /><br />Since you moderate the comments, the only way ad hominen attacks can appear is with your approval, right?<br />How then can a shouting match occur?<br /><br />Now, back to the facts of the case. There are only two explanations for Fr. Unni's statement that he didn't know what Gay Pride was. He was telling the truth or he wasn't. If he was telling the truth, then he must truly be clueless about the realities of the gay life. If so, he shouldn't be pastor of a parish with a large gay population. If he wasn't telling the truth and did know what Gay Pride meant, he shouldn't be pastor, because only the Truth can set you free.<br /><br />Same deal with the camera. This was professional quality video that appeared on a news website, not a cell phone or Flip. Hard to miss the difference. Most priests don't allow cameramen into church during their Mass. A pastor certainly has control of his premises (short of a riot). If Fr. Unni was aware of the videographer, then it was a set-up. If he was unaware of the videographer, then he is clearly clueless. Either way, it raises questions about his pastoral style and prudence.<br /><br /><br />MaryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-3730874439325058832011-06-16T13:54:31.860-04:002011-06-16T13:54:31.860-04:00Shouting matches between commenters will result in...Shouting matches between commenters will result in this combox being closed.Concord Pastorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18322127779647130869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-1121781688038224342011-06-16T13:51:44.394-04:002011-06-16T13:51:44.394-04:00Mary,
You say, "It seems that Fr. Unni certai...Mary,<br />You say, "It seems that Fr. Unni certainly invited in the TV cameras knowing what he was going to do. The word ambush springs to mind." <br /><br />You obviously don't know Father Unni. I can assure you that he did not invite any tv cameras or reporters. I am sure that he is not enjoying any of this. I think you should keep your unfounded opinions to yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-27773139256217549762011-06-16T01:45:55.043-04:002011-06-16T01:45:55.043-04:00I watched the video, and I must say I'm surpri...I watched the video, and I must say I'm surprised and disappointed at Fr. Unni's claim not to know what the Gay Pride agenda is. That part of it strikes me as disingenuous, at best.<br /><br />Everything else he says on the video seems okay, especially at the point where he mentioned "Gay Pride agenda," and immediately said, "No," which seems to deny that he supports such an agenda.<br /><br />It is a fine line that he seems to be attempting to tread between acceptance of all people and implicit condoning of homosexual conduct. I hope he will never cross the line.naturgesetzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15268507379933286863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-74616174643383257382011-06-16T00:52:12.499-04:002011-06-16T00:52:12.499-04:00I was deeply blessed by your post and watching the...I was deeply blessed by your post and watching the clip of Fr. Unni's address to parishioners. Why blessed? Because that's how I feel whenever someone in our church so passionately and eloquently reminds us what Jesus taught -- and what so many have yet to learn. #PBWYMeredith Gouldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16260267368064065843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-42641166896971945042011-06-15T22:12:32.393-04:002011-06-15T22:12:32.393-04:00Mary,
Like most parish priests I'm certainly ...Mary, <br />Like most parish priests I'm certainly familiar with Courage and the materials that describe the program's philosophy and what it offers. <br /><br />If you find Fr. Unni's statement, as reported by the media, hard to believe I suggest you take that up with him.<br /><br />The person who made the comment about Fr. Unni being "brave" might want to respond to you. I suspect that commenter is unfamiliar with Bishop Hennessey and that might account for her not realizing that Bishop Hennessey's visage in that clip is not an unusual one for him.<br />I wouldn't read much into his countenance there, but neither do I know what the Bishop's reaction to Fr. Unni's remarks might have been. <br /><br />You must have more information than I do, Mary, about whether Fr. unni invited the press to the liturgy or not - or who, if anyone, authorized their presence. I do not know.Concord Pastorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18322127779647130869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-19572511104204419672011-06-15T19:18:07.811-04:002011-06-15T19:18:07.811-04:00Father Fleming,
Have you considered looking into ...Father Fleming,<br /><br />Have you considered looking into the work of the Courage apostolate for Catholics with same-sex attraction? I suggest you seek expert advice within the church on this particular ministry. There is a body of written material from the group that does not cherry pick the teachings of the Church but presents them whole, with comprehensive citations.<br /><br />Now, about your post: I have read the Globe stories and find it hard to believe Fr. Unni's statement that he was unaware of the meaning of gay pride. I suspect photos from past Gay Pride events would quickly clear up his confusion. <br /><br />Also, I am offended by the comment above that Fr. Unni is "brave" and the look on the face of the auxiliary bishop "is well worth seeing." It seems that Fr. Unni certainly invited in the TV cameras knowing what he was going to do. The word ambush springs to mind.<br /><br />MaryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-20950901112832551912011-06-15T13:43:05.072-04:002011-06-15T13:43:05.072-04:00For Easter this year we were in Minnesota. At the ...For Easter this year we were in Minnesota. At the beginning of the Mass a man and woman welcomed all in attendance - married, divorced, single, handicapped, gay, straight, aged, etc and we responded "All are welcome here" after each welcome of the different groups. I thought it was wonderful and a great opportunity to welcome visitors with the possibility of them joining the parish because they felt welcomeElizabeth from St. Louisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-84620108982410918732011-06-15T12:53:39.898-04:002011-06-15T12:53:39.898-04:00A-men! Wonderful post, CP!A-men! Wonderful post, CP!Paul Snatchkohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15095161921742904453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-30588580842199961872011-06-15T12:41:58.844-04:002011-06-15T12:41:58.844-04:00Very good Father. You are a good man and pastor.Very good Father. You are a good man and pastor.Faithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13945662015612932618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-60525821529907522382011-06-15T10:58:10.228-04:002011-06-15T10:58:10.228-04:00Well said Austin !
The video showing Fr Unni's...Well said Austin !<br />The video showing Fr Unni's speech is here<br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/14/john-unni-gay-catholic-inclusion_n_877098.html<br /><br />I think Fr Unni is brave and the look on the face of the auxiliary archbishop is well worth seeing.<br /><br />It's interesting to compare this with the situation here in the UK.<br />The so called Soho masses are well known here and actively support ministry to the gay community and have done for a number of years.<br />Here's a link<br />http://www.sohomasses.com/news-notesBlue Eyed Ennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06181985609681328032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-33340663992226059472011-06-15T09:30:11.243-04:002011-06-15T09:30:11.243-04:00It is me, Fran, I am at work. Thank you for this.
...It is me, Fran, I am at work. Thank you for this.<br /><br />There are so many pastoral opportunities, even in large suburban parishes. I have, at two different parishes, had the privilege of serving at funerals where women had lost partners - other women - with whom they had lived, loved, worshipped and prayed for 40 years in one case and 30 in another. And in the last one, the final 3 years were spent caring, tenderly and personally, with some nursing and then hospice help, to her beloved.<br /><br />I think about the families that I know, 2 men or 2 women, who dutifully bring their children to church weekly, educating them in the faith, often sending these kids to Catholic school. I understand the teaching but I can't help but see the witness of lives of love and service.<br /><br />I mean honestly - all are welcome. We all have much to learn and ways to grow more deeply in Christ. It is through these very mysteries that we encounter Christ in many forms, including one another, and are transformed.<br /><br />Thanks be to God for that. And thank you for such a thoughtful post, as always.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-89638439247625007022011-06-15T08:32:07.975-04:002011-06-15T08:32:07.975-04:00Thank you, Austin. "AF"Thank you, Austin. "AF"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-47341043919314957632011-06-15T07:56:11.356-04:002011-06-15T07:56:11.356-04:00Your blog prompted me to google Fr. Unni and I fou...Your blog prompted me to google Fr. Unni and I found a video of his homily. My feeling for Fr. Unni was one of pride. I am also pleased to read what Fr. Austin wrote. Our Lord welcomed everyone, that is for certain. If all he wanted were the saints among us, the churches would probably be empty.ETnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-49358742633213811262011-06-15T06:56:19.971-04:002011-06-15T06:56:19.971-04:00Amen. Thanks for this important post.Amen. Thanks for this important post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-8381002421371917442011-06-15T06:28:11.882-04:002011-06-15T06:28:11.882-04:00Thank you.
ShawnThank you.<br />ShawnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-22297823850396653212011-06-15T02:29:07.879-04:002011-06-15T02:29:07.879-04:00Well said!Well said!naturgesetzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15268507379933286863noreply@blogger.com