tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post6978346980697522408..comments2024-03-18T15:28:13.866-04:00Comments on A Concord Pastor Comments: Year for PriestsConcord Pastorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18322127779647130869noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-85727530235602427522009-06-14T23:29:45.699-04:002009-06-14T23:29:45.699-04:00This is a post about the pope's announcement o...This is a post about the pope's announcement of a year of prayer for and renewal of priests, with a link to his address to the Congregation for the Clergy. <br /><br />Unfortunately, it's quickly devolved intoto something fairly predictable with a mix of anonymous and identifiable readers going back and forth on tracks already covered here many, many times. <br /><br />I'm no longer playing host to such threads - they generate far more heat than light and give me a headache.<br /><br />There are other blogs where such threads might be welcome but no longer here.<br /><br />I just read several new blogs where anonymous comments are not allowed. I'm on the verge of that policy here.<br /><br />On this post, comments are closed.Concord Pastorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18322127779647130869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-59918845926507226812009-06-14T23:11:28.754-04:002009-06-14T23:11:28.754-04:00Anonymous ii -- Not exactly. The Bridgeport VOTF w...Anonymous ii -- Not exactly. The Bridgeport VOTF was vocally for it. And the man who introduced the legislation was associated with the VOTF in the state. See the American Papist blog for a history.<br /><br />Irish GalAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-58854524925956027652009-06-14T10:04:23.064-04:002009-06-14T10:04:23.064-04:00Dear Rosemary,
Exactly. One of the reasons that t...Dear Rosemary,<br /><br />Exactly. One of the reasons that the archdiocese of Boston is still shattered in many respects. It seems to me members of Red Sox Nation are more eager to proclaim their allegiance to their "team" than religious are to theirs. Dress does make a difference: Go to court some day and observe the way people present themselves at hearings. Or look at the Susan Boyle video! Orders whose members wear a habit tend also to have higher numbers of vocations and a higher retain rate than not. <br /><br />We would be better off if everyone, especially our priests, listened to the Holy Father. Like members of a family, priests and religious owe respect to the opinion of their "Father."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-32886954793272762522009-06-14T09:10:40.821-04:002009-06-14T09:10:40.821-04:00Just a response to Anonymous' response to Mich...Just a response to Anonymous' response to Michael relative to his/her reference to VOTF in Connecticut and the issue with the legislature: VOTF in CT supported the bishop in his opposition to the proposed legislation... VOTF had not proposed nor been instrumental in the judicial committee's proposal.anonymous iinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-28968350540105920582009-06-13T15:12:20.890-04:002009-06-13T15:12:20.890-04:00Irish Gal,
I just read Cardinal Sean's blog fo...Irish Gal,<br />I just read Cardinal Sean's blog for this week. He didn't seem to mind that at the Convocation most of the priests were not in "habit," as the pope called it.<br /><br />Also, there is a picture taken at the Hispanic Conference of Cardinal Sean and another bishop, who was dressed quite casually. They are both smiling.<br /><br />I think the important thing is for us to pray for our priests during this Year for Priests and not to worry too much about their wardrobes.<br /><br />RosemaryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-79975036225949018702009-06-11T05:38:56.719-04:002009-06-11T05:38:56.719-04:00CP you say "...the priest hood of the laity a...CP you say <i>"...the priest hood of the laity and the priesthood of the ordained are just plain different! They are not the same. But to speak of one is not necessarily to criticize or diminish the other."</i> and I say Amen.<br /><br />I think that it is essential to know and understand this, more importantly to live this.<br /><br />I often wonder if the priesthood of the people is fully understood by those of us who are in it as a result of our baptism.<br /><br />A clear understanding and expression of the priesthood of the people in my mind should underscore and support fully the priesthood of the ordained.<br /><br />As you said - one does not criticize or diminish the other. <br /><br />FranSt Edwards Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00585815864104929974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-52660288740801491792009-06-10T22:56:32.727-04:002009-06-10T22:56:32.727-04:00Be not discouraged. When the pope declares a &quo...Be not discouraged. When the pope declares a "year for priests" you can be sure that it will attract all manner of response.<br /><br />For some, any attention to ordained priests is read/understood as an infringement on the ministry, the priesthood of the laity. For others, any mention of the priesthood of the laity is read/understood as an infringement on the priesthood of the ordained.<br /><br />Let's get it straight: the priest hood of the laity and the priesthood of the ordained are just plain different! They are not the same. But to speak of one is not necessarily to criticize or diminish the other. In a quite sensible and logical fashion, the two kinds of priesthood in the Church share a common bond in Christ and in the service of the gospel.Concord Pastorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18322127779647130869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-82362753775710466822009-06-10T22:49:18.469-04:002009-06-10T22:49:18.469-04:00tre is Latin for three;
munera is the plural of th...tre is Latin for three;<br />munera is the plural of the Latin munus which means "gift, present, office, spectacle, function, duty, tribute, service"<br /><br />In the pope's statement it means tre munera means "three functions or services" of a priest.Concord Pastorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18322127779647130869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-19672309545532702252009-06-10T22:34:29.067-04:002009-06-10T22:34:29.067-04:00I find the Holy Father's comments discouraging...I find the Holy Father's comments discouraging. I think that the people are the Church and the dilution of the priesthood, I would say, is not the fault of the people.Novonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-79666386124590722092009-06-10T16:01:34.425-04:002009-06-10T16:01:34.425-04:00Would you please explain what "tre munera&quo...Would you please explain what "tre munera" is. I read the pope's letter more than once and still don't understand what "tre munera" is.<br /><br />Thank you.<br /><br />RosemaryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-10512240136519133562009-06-10T13:50:52.151-04:002009-06-10T13:50:52.151-04:00Michael,
Don't know whether you're local o...Michael,<br />Don't know whether you're local or not. Concord Pastor hosted a VOTF meeting this spring at his parish, at which some of the national organizers spoke... I recall the phrase "American Church." The state and local VOTF has hosted interesting characters not in communion with their bishops or the hierarchy (putting it mildly). You can search on this blog for Pat Gomez, another VOTF official, take on the role of women. Then, if you feel like doing research, look up the issues in Connecticut, including a legislative attempt to impose a pastoral council structure on Catholic churches. Read that, and consider: Is this in tune with Pope Benedict's call to faithfulness to tradition?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-25885954831426844642009-06-10T08:40:07.790-04:002009-06-10T08:40:07.790-04:00Irish Gal,
Please explain why you think these comm...Irish Gal,<br />Please explain why you think these comments might not set well with the "Voice of the Faithful set". What is their position?Michaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808375493800890797.post-53801378015724131802009-06-09T20:34:45.604-04:002009-06-09T20:34:45.604-04:00The Holy Father seems to be asking priests to look...The Holy Father seems to be asking priests to look inward and to return to the essence of their vocation. <br /><br />I wonder if his call for priests to be identifiable in their attire will cause any priests in the Archdiocese to reconsider their style of dress. The last paragraph quoted above ("erroneous interpretation of the promotion of the laity") might not set well with the Voice of the Faithful set, since Benedict seems to be saying a dilution of priestly ministry would make the existing problems worse.<br /><br />And then there is his caution against "discontinuity" -- an implicit criticism of the "spirit of Vatican II."<br /><br />Irish GalAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com