Words, Words, Words: Our Shabby Equipment

H/T to reader and blogger Fran for reminding me to bring a new blog to your attention.  Click your way over to The Jesuit Post where a number of men from the Society of Jesus are collaborating on page that's certainly deserving of your time.

Fran's email linked to two posts on the new translation of the Roman Missal.  Apart from posts on the same topic at PrayTell and Gotta Sing, Gotta Pray, I've not often read such an informed and informative take on this question.

Check out The Jesuit Post and in particular these two posts here and here: Words, Words, Words: Our Shabby Equipment, Parts 1 and 2.


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  1. I'm glad that you found them informed; I know that I did, which is why I shared them in the first place.

    In any event, the Jesuit Post overall has some pretty amazing posts to read in general.

    Peace and good to all.

  2. Fr. Fleming,

    It's not about poetry. In the case of pastors, it is about obedience. You have written that you, on your own authority, changed words you didn't like during a funeral liturgy. You've also written that you liked the old version of the Eucharistic Prayer of Reconciliation, and that you've only used Prayer II since the changeover. Apparently, you will not use the new version of your old Lenten favorite.

    The new translation is the new reality. You may not like it, but you must use it. In persisting in your denigration of the translation, you are sowing seeds of disunity and disrespect.


  3. Thank you for these daily prayers and comments!

  4. All I can say to Mary's comment is:

    Oy vey.


  5. For those who do not attend Mass in my parish: be assured that I am, indeed, using the new translation.

    Some may have the mistaken notion that a Eucharistic Prayer for Reconciliation is required during the Lenten season. It is not. It is an option.

    Whether or not I like the "new reality," those who hear me at Mass know that I am indeed using it.

  6. Fr. Fleming,

    I sent two responses to this post after my first was posted. Neither appeared. Were they lost en route, or have you decided to close comments?

    I do not have the mistaken notion that the Prayer for Reconciliation is required. I asked if you were only using one of the many available Eucharistic prayers. I also wonder why you -- so often outspoken about "tolerance" and "welcoming" -- will not give your parishioners a chance to become familiar with more of the new liturgy and make a decision on it for themselves. With respect,


  7. Comments on this post are not closed but there are some problems in the combox here.

    In response to Mary's comment above: I checked my email but did not find any other comments from her. Checking "comments awaiting moderation" on my blog, I did find two unpublished comments from N... which I had not received in email (a situation I've never encountered before).

    Then, in attempting to publish the two comments from N... - they did *not* publish and disappeared from my moderation list!

    My apologies - I have not tried to restrict or edit any comments on this post.

    If Mary or N... wish to resend their
    previous, unpublished comments, I will certainly consider them.

    A brief response to both Mary and N... is this: I plan to mainly use EP II until that time when I am able to pray it without being tied to the text in the Missal. This will allow both priest and people to grow into a prayerful familiarity with a new text.

  8. Fr. Fleming,

    And then you will proceed using the other Eucharistic prayers, each in turn? Waiting months until you and your parishioners grow into prayerful familiarity with each one? I am hard put to understand how this needs to be. From my experience at Holy Family, parishioners are open to a wide variety of musical styles at Mass (some jazzy and non-liturgical). They are open to sometimes eccentric homilies, with props and once, I recall, in RAP. Why on earth such problems with a variation on plain old English?

    I would urge you to be more generously accepting of what the Church has instituted.



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